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December 13, 2008

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All I can think of the say is "Oh, Jesus."

You're a lawyer, and I'm not, but at least in regards to the harassment charge I wonder if you're reading the law too narrowly here. For instance, in the statute you quoted, I take it that the "obscene" or "lascivious" forms of harassment don't have to indicate intent to perform lascivious acts on the person; they just have to be clearly intended to "harass, annoy, or alarm." It would be strange if graphically describing a desire to see someone having sex counted as harassment, but graphically describing a desire to see someone murdered didn't--it seems like the "intended to harass" is the marker there, not the narrow definition of "threat." (I also think that "threatening" can apply more generally to descriptions of violence like these, rather than just direct promises to do harm, but I may be on shakier ground there.) Anyway, like I say, you have the expertise and I don't, so I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

I take it that the "obscene" or "lascivious" forms of harassment don't have to indicate intent to perform lascivious acts on the person; they just have to be clearly intended to "harass, annoy, or alarm."

The definition of a threat is "a declaration of an intention or determination to inflict punishment, injury, etc." You're right that obscene or lascivious words don't require a statement of intention, but the plain meaning of "threatening" does.

If you broaden the meaning of "threaten" to include statements like, "I hope someone shoots that motherfucker", then I think you'd run up against the First Amendment pretty quickly. Advocating criminal acts is protected speech - ironically, only so long as there is no immediate risk that anyone will obey. Sending someone a message that says, "I hope they lynch you" is legal. Sending someone a message that says, "I have a bullet with your name on it" is not.

I take it that the "obscene" or "lascivious" forms of harassment don't have to indicate intent to perform lascivious acts on the person; they just have to be clearly intended to "harass, annoy, or alarm."

The definition of a threat is "a declaration of an intention or determination to inflict punishment, injury, etc." You're right that obscene or lascivious words don't require a statement of intention, but the plain meaning of "threatening" does.

If you broaden the meaning of "threaten" to include statements like, "I hope someone shoots that motherfucker", then I think you'd run up against the First Amendment pretty quickly. Advocating criminal acts is protected speech - ironically, only so long as there is no immediate risk that anyone will obey. Sending someone a message that says, "I hope they lynch you" is legal. Sending someone a message that says, "I have a bullet with your name on it" is not.

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