Comments on Hopey-Changey for CIA TorturorsTypePad2009-04-16T20:06:30ZMithrashttps://mithras.blogs.com/blog/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://mithras.blogs.com/blog/2009/04/hopeychangey-for-cia-torturors/comments/atom.xml/Jamie Jamison commented on 'Hopey-Changey for CIA Torturors'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c68d353ef01157025aacc970b2009-04-17T13:20:36Z2011-01-22T05:33:31ZJamie Jamisonhttp://profile.typepad.com/jamiejamisonHey, mithras, long time no talk, man. How's things? Anyway I, too, thought the decision was the right decision to...<p>Hey, mithras, long time no talk, man. How's things? Anyway I, too, thought the decision was the right decision to make, and it also left a bad taste in my mouth.</p>
<p>Why would human beings do these things at all? The protection in the military for people following orders has shifted over time, and we have gone from a point where any soldier was expected to do exactly as s/he is told without question to now, where there exists the concept of a 'lawful order', and soldiers are only expected to follow those.</p>
<p>Why does the same concept not apply to the intelligence forces? Now don't get me wrong, I know that these folks spend most of their lives in the grey world, and honestly I'm thankful we have people trying to watch out for us. I guess I could never do it, though, because I couldn't be sure that the ends justified the means.</p>tomemos commented on 'Hopey-Changey for CIA Torturors'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c68d353ef0115702510c1970b2009-04-17T07:46:41Z2009-04-17T07:46:41Ztomemoshttp://tomemos.wordpress.comThanks for the clarification.<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>Mithras commented on 'Hopey-Changey for CIA Torturors'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c68d353ef011570249df8970b2009-04-17T01:56:27Z2009-04-17T01:56:28ZMithrashttp://mithras.blogs.comYeah, legally I think it would be difficult to get a conviction because of the existence of the legal memoranda...<p>Yeah, legally I think it would be difficult to get a conviction because of the existence of the legal memoranda saying the techniques were legal. Politically, I think Obama is correct that prosecutions would just inspire gridlock.</p>
<p>Morality has nothing to do with it.</p>tomemos commented on 'Hopey-Changey for CIA Torturors'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c68d353ef01156f2d7bb5970c2009-04-16T20:39:18Z2009-04-16T20:39:18Ztomemoshttp://tomemos.wordpress.com"What makes this decision worse for me is that I agree with it." Politically? Morally? Legally?<p>"What makes this decision worse for me is that I agree with it."</p>
<p>Politically? Morally? Legally?</p>