Good, Obama will close Gitmo:
Under plans being put together in Obama's camp, some [Guantánamo Bay] detainees would be released and many others would be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts.
Potentially bad:
The protections built into such a new court will be the key to whether these people get treated fairly.
Obama has said the civilian and military court-martial systems provide ''a framework for dealing with the terrorists,'' and [Obama legal adviser Prof. Laurence] Tribe said the administration would look to those venues before creating a new legal system. But discussions of what a new system would look like have already started.
''It would have to be some sort of hybrid that involves military commissions that actually administer justice rather than just serve as kangaroo courts,'' Tribe said. ''It will have to both be and appear to be fundamentally fair in light of the circumstances. I think people are going to give an Obama administration the benefit of the doubt in that regard.''
I'd just note that long before 9/11, Tribe was no doctrinaire liberal on national security trial policy. Although conservatives like to portray him cartoonishly, he's been thinking about these issues for some time. When he says "fundamentally fair in light of the circumstances", he means it.
This hybrid system sounds like the Orwellian "National Security Courts" that I thought back in May Bush would spring on us:
The ACLU has a stronger stance:
Court-martial or federal criminal trial, or nothing. They're not happy about the hybrid system idea:
I think this is a fine negotiating position but there is little chance we will end up there. The entire third group of prisoners - which probably includes some incredibly dangerous people - would have to be released because none of the evidence against them would be admissible. No one would take them except countries that sponsor terrorism, and once released, they'd go right back to attacking U.S. forces or civilians around the world. Congress and President Obama would be rightly pilloried by the public for letting them out.
There are several areas that I see that have to be worked out:
- The biggest problem is how to deal with evidence that is inadmissible under the Federal Rules of Evidence, because it is inadmissible hearsay, or because testimony or confessions were obtained through torture, or because the chain of custody is considered reliable for intelligence-gathering purposes but would not satisfy an Article III judge. The goal here has to be the reliability of the evidence and the ability of the jury to assess how credible it is.
- Next is the right of the defendants to confront witnesses and see the evidence against them. Can spies and informants be cross-examined without putting their lives in danger? Methods of gathering signals intelligence might have to be revealed to jurors as well as the defendants. Will defendants be given the time and resources necessary to conduct their own investigations?
- Who will be the jurors? It has to be civilians, in my view. Military juries are for courts martial.
- Appeal rights: Specifically, to which court may an appeal be made, what bases for appeal will be available and what level of scrutiny will they be given?
- Sentencing: Will the death penalty be an option? For lengthy prison terms, will there be any process by which a defendant could seek release down the road if circumstances change?
To be honest, I can imagine so many insoluble scenarios here that I couldn't even suggest what to do. It's yet another area that Bush has royally screwed us. The best thing I can hope for is that most of the prisoners are people who we can just let go or give normal federal criminal trials to, and the number of prisoners in the third category is small.
Also, the article only mentions Gitmo. Although Gitmo is large and symbolically important, we reportedly have secret prisons all over the world. Is Obama going to include people being held there for long periods of time in this program?
Civilian trials in American courts of members of foreign guerilla insurgencies (Taliban)or foreign paramilitary groups (al Qaida)captured overseas in an armed conflict with the U.S. are inappropriate, jurisdictionally speaking. It's also a bad idea in terms of policy because it further muddies the water between a civilian criminal defendent and an armed combatant. Detainees belong in proper military courts tried under the relevant articles of war, something the Bush administration has refused to do.
Military tribunals are also a legitimate option but they generally have an extraordinary character ( Nuremburg, Tokyo, Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia etc.)and international participation.
Military commissions have precedent under SCOTUS but the Bush administration has discredited their use. I've always thought that was by design and that their goal was always to avoid trials and finesse ad hoc indefinite detention.
Posted by: zenpundit | November 10, 2008 at 11:58 PM