Being an Obama supporter, I catch the most craziness from Hillary fans. Some of it is really wacky shit. I refrain from pointing it out because I really don't want to join the circular firing squad. I am sure sane people who like Hillary could also enumerate craziness from some Obama fans.
In the interest of fairness, one of the persistent slams I hear against Hillary is that she - and Bill - are basically Republicans, and that Obama by contrast is a good progressive. I don't buy it. I think both Obama and Hillary are in the positions they are in today - within striking distance of the Presidency - precisely because they are not especially liberal. The Clintons' record of triangulation is well known. But Obama's kumbaya message extends quite explicitly to navigating a middle way on a whole host of domestic policy issues, and as far as I can tell, that's triangulation.
Neither a President Hillary Clinton nor a President Obama would govern from the left. I don't support Obama because he's a good progressive; I support him because I think he can win and Hillary can't. It irritates me that Hillary has also shown herself to be quite ruthless, but in an incompetent way. If you want to play hardball, you better fucking win. If you play hardball and lose, don't expect a lot of sympathy.
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