Bout 2-
An Exchange of Ideas About Civil Liberties with Tucker Carlson, MSNBC and and Rachel Maddow of Air America. Moderated by ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero
First of all, Anthony should never moderate anything. Second, if Tucker Carlson is not on coke right now, he will be very soon. The most conservative person on the stage is Maddow; she's just a straight-up civil libertarian. Here's the webcast.
Carlson is trying to ingratiate himself.
Update 1: Carlson is in favor of putting the Gitmo defendants on trial in civilian courts.
Update 2: Maddow has the best line: "I believe in the balance between the branches of government."
Update 3: Topic is Rumsfeld. Carlson says he's against the Iraq war and says Rumsfeld isn't to blame - the intellectuals in the White House are to blame. Maddow says its a badly executed bad plan.
Update 4: Abu Ghraib. Carlson says it hurts America. Anthony blames Gonzales calling Geneva Convention "quaint" and "outdated".
Update 5: War on Christmas. Carlson says shame on ACLU. Maddow says protecting religion is important. Carlson says better uses of your time. Advocates ACLU support polygamists.
Update 6: Dover, PA. Use of public school science curriculum to advocate for an intelligent designer. Carlson says its a free speech issue.
Update 7: Why am I live-blogging this? Nothing else to do.
Update 8: Gay marriage: Carlson has no principled objection to it, but he won't advocate it.
Update 9: Wall on Mexico border. Carlson says it will reduce illegal immigration. Romero says it won't work and it disrespects immigrants.
Update 10: They're getting tired up there. Carlson clearly needs a line.
Update 11: Maddow is wearing black-and-white stripey socks. (Pictured.) Carlson keeps using the phrase "animal level."
Update 12: Affirmative action. Carlson says its immoral. Maddow uses some line about Marie Antoinette that no one understands.
Ref disqualifies Carlson for being obviously on some substance.
And that concludes our card for tonight, folks.
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