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April 10, 2005

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This looks romantic in a fetishy way. I want one!

It occurs to me that with a jigsaw, sandpaper, and some hardware, you could make it out of an ordinary expandable table.

Might want to have your dining companion wear a turtleneck that first time, though.

Nothing ruins a romantic dinner more than neck splinters.

Or so I've heard.

I had hoped the sandpaper would take care of that. But you're right, get something to seal it with, too.

Ummm, please don't invite me to dinner after all, okay?

Also, unless she's got something on which to sit, she's going to be hurting in a very short time, and could probably hurt her neck/throat, even w/o worrying about splinters. IJS.

Emma - Aww, don't be scared. Really.

Also, unless she's got something on which to sit, she's going to be hurting in a very short time

No, I don't think so. She appears to be sitting on her left haunch. I've seen people stay bound in such positions for a very long time and be quite happy. And even if it's a bit uncomfortable, keep in mind that that is sort of the point.

Additionally, either a small pillow or kneepads would be helpful. Or *really* thick carpet.

I've been in a similar position for a little while, and it's really not uncomfortable. The first problem that I see is that I think that her body is too far back in that position, that could cause some seriously unfun back/neck strain in extended use.

Also, it looks that the cuff/collar cutouts might be a bit tight. Sucks if you have a several potential dinner dates, and one or more are larger than the cutouts. I'd make the cutouts larger and then add a set of cuffs (preferably Ye Olde Fashioned iron manacles) to hold people that are smaller than the cutouts.

Pretty sure I've seen illustrations of similar from back in the 50s, maybe earlier. Trick would probably be to have it just the right height.

Exandable tables! Thanks for the idea.

Yeah, see, the "uncomfortable is the point" thing, that's precisely the part where I go, "No, thanks."

Everyone is clicking the picture and seeing the other photographs of the table, and the other furniture this guy makes, right?

Jason- Ideally, the right posture would be kneeling, square to the table. A pillow might be nice, but dinner isn't going to last hours. I do like the idea of other attachments on the table to, you know, tie someone to when you bend them over the table.

Okay, see, you got my attention all over again with the bending-over-the-table thing, but I don't see the need for attachments. As long as there aren't violations of the "no pain" rule, I'd even go along with the attachments, especially if I got to turn the tables (so to speak). But the other photos were definitely a mood-killer.

The attachments are just for the feeling of helplessness, which is hot regardless of whether you're into pain or not. I don't know about this "turning tables" thing, though. Sounds kinda freaky.

Freaky? As opposed to the pillory table?

Well, one question is whether you would only be the tie-er and never the tie-ee, and it's not entirely clear to me where you stand on that. (I'm trying to figure out a way to slip in a reference to "stand corrected," but am failing miserably.)

I'm the tie-er. Goes with being the beater. Otherwise, they get away too easily.

"Standing corrected" sounds like one of those schoolteacher things where someone ends up getting spanked, sent to the principal's office for a caning, or both. Not my thing, but my thing is not a lot of other people's thing, either.

I think there used to be a spanking mag called "Stand Corrected" that advertised in the pages of Libido.

Is it common to be only the tie-er/beater OR the tie-ee/beatee (which is what I would think)? Or do people trade places?

I think it's much more common for people to switch, either depending on partner or scene or even within a scene. I don't really know if there are any reliable statistics on the question; it's just my impression based on the people I know.

Thank you for answering my questions, btw. It's a little like quizzing someone who's spent a lot of time in, say, Anarctica. I'm never going to go there, and a lot about it pushes me away personally, but it's interesting to hear about from someone who lives there, especially when s/he is articulate about what they did there, what they like there, etc. I'm nearly always interested in hearing people talk about the things that interest them, even if those things don't interest me much, and when it's about a subject in which I have a different but related interest--like sex--I have another hook for understanding.

I think it's much more common for people to switch

My impression has been the opposite, but that may just be the people I've known. It would be an interesting thesis topic...

But you're right, get something to seal it with, too.

Or a bit of tasteful upholstery with a strip of leather, a bit of padding, a staple gun and some glue.

Speaking of bondage and furniture...

Emma-
I'm never going to go there, and a lot about it pushes me away personally, but it's interesting to hear about from someone who lives there

It's funny, because lately I have had several experiences which reminded me that most people don't want to go there. When you spend a lot of time living in a place, then you start to assume that everyone is like the people in your neighborhood. Then you leave that neighborhood and it seems a little odd that people are different.

DE-
My impression has been the opposite

Interesting. I would love to see research on the subject. I think Charles Moser has done some surveys.

Or a bit of tasteful upholstery with a strip of leather, a bit of padding, a staple gun and some glue.

That's occurred to me, too. But then I wondered if there is any way to "save" the table for conventional use, too. I was thinking that when I saw out the round pieces that I would save them so I could pop them into the gaps when the table was just a table.

Speaking of bondage and furniture...

Wrong. So wrong. Yet it looks like good practice.

Well, it's sort of like my experience with chemicals. Compared to many people, I have tried or know about many consciousness-altering substances--but I used to work with recovering addicts and alcoholics, and, compared to them, I'm a complete innocent.

So, by analogy, that would make me ... a junkie? Thank you.

No problem! Just one of the services I offer--addiction by analogy.

(Unless you're seriously offended, in which case I'll apologize, clarify, etc.)

No, not offended at all. I just thought it was a funny comparison.

Then you leave that neighborhood and it seems a little odd that people are different.

Oh, dear, this conjures up an image of Fred Rogers that I never wanted to have...

I would love to see research on the subject. I think Charles Moser has done some surveys.

I wonder if Pamela Connolly did any statistics in her study of the psychology of kink; I remember that one's orientation was a question.

I was thinking that when I saw out the round pieces that I would save them so I could pop them into the gaps when the table was just a table.

[grin] Think about the logistics of that for a minute.

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